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Blab of Bacon		#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3646 May 11, 2012 2:25 PM Beware the milkman!	Remove this ad PBRmeASAP wrote: LumpyWideAss wrote: Billy Hancock wrote: the surplus is hokum...smoke and mirrors or frankly a lie, wait! I thought the deficit was a lie he made up to screw the unions. So if the budget deficit was a lie, how can the surplus be a lie? No one said that, saying "we're broke" was the lie. Doyle faced larger budget deficits that Walker did. Whose lie was it? Are you claiming that Walker fabricated the deficit? When Barrett and Walker debated before Walker was even elected Barrett referred to that deficit. Several times Barrett said that Walker's promise of tax cuts wasn't possible when the state is facing a $2.7 billion deficit in the 2011-'13 budget years. "This is not the time to cut taxes," Barrett said. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/103765479.html
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Blab of Bacon		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3646 May 11, 2012 2:27 PM Beware the milkman!	Billy Hancock wrote: Blab of Bacon wrote: Brandt wrote: Walker is out to kill unions as a political opponent, he cares little about the people of Wisconsin or the economic ramifications. He is a terrible person. Actually, he is doing it for the people of Wisconsin and for the economic ramifications. Apparently only a terrible person turns a $3 billion deficit into over a million dollar surplus. Guess what? Not wanting to grease the unions does not make somebody terrible. the surplus is hokum...smoke and mirrors or frankly a lie, and by the way teachers, cops, firefighters, and other public employees are among "the people of Wisconsin" and he ain't doin' shit for them. Walker is a right wing ideologue doing the bidding of his patrons for a national right wing agenda, he doesn't give a rat's ass about Wisconsin. If Wisconsin wants a higher unemployment rate, unhealthy schools, less teachers, bigger class sizes, higher property taxes and HUGE deficits then I guess Walker does not give a rats ass about those concerns. In that case, we probably should have a democrat governor.
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CVBucky		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 784 May 11, 2012 2:33 PM	If Wisconsin wants a higher unemployment rate, unhealthy schools, less teachers, bigger class sizes, higher property taxes and HUGE deficits then I guess Walker does not give a rats ass about those concerns. In that case, we probably should have a democrat governor. Lets go through your list, shall we? Under Walker: Unhealthy Schools? check Less Teachers? check Bigger Class Sizes? check Higher Property Taxes? Check I'll give you the deficits, but I assume you make some correlation between the lowering unemployment rate and President Obama's policies? So Flunky gets 1 1/2 out of 6 on your scale. No wonder he got kicked out of Maquette!
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PBRmeASAP		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3751 May 11, 2012 2:41 PM Heineken!?! Fuck that shit! PABST BLUE RIBBON!!!	Blab of Bacon wrote: PBRmeASAP wrote: LumpyWideAss wrote: Billy Hancock wrote: the surplus is hokum...smoke and mirrors or frankly a lie, wait! I thought the deficit was a lie he made up to screw the unions. So if the budget deficit was a lie, how can the surplus be a lie? No one said that, saying "we're broke" was the lie. Doyle faced larger budget deficits that Walker did. Whose lie was it? Are you claiming that Walker fabricated the deficit? When Barrett and Walker debated before Walker was even elected Barrett referred to that deficit. Several times Barrett said that Walker's promise of tax cuts wasn't possible when the state is facing a $2.7 billion deficit in the 2011-'13 budget years. "This is not the time to cut taxes," Barrett said. http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/103765479.html You're arguing against a strawman, I don't deny Walker faced a deficit. But we were not "broke"? Doyle faced larger budget deficits that Walker. It's an absolute paradox. The bacon must have been finished, thus disallowing the possibility of 'leftover'. And yet, were that impossibility to occur, surely it would be good. -LeviBooth
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Blab of Bacon		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3646 May 11, 2012 2:42 PM Beware the milkman!	CVBucky wrote: If Wisconsin wants a higher unemployment rate, unhealthy schools, less teachers, bigger class sizes, higher property taxes and HUGE deficits then I guess Walker does not give a rats ass about those concerns. In that case, we probably should have a democrat governor. Lets go through your list, shall we? Under Walker: Unhealthy Schools? check Less Teachers? check Bigger Class Sizes? check Higher Property Taxes? Check I'll give you the deficits, but I assume you make some correlation between the lowering unemployment rate and President Obama's policies? So Flunky gets 1 1/2 out of 6 on your scale. No wonder he got kicked out of Maquette! Fiction!
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yanked		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 17389 May 11, 2012 2:50 PM	WI is doing better than the US average since Walker took office - fact Walker solved a huge budget deficit - fact School districts are saving huge money on healthcare under Walker - fact WI is moving rapidly up the list of Best Places to do Business (Forbes list I believe) since Walker took office - fact He is besting Obama in every economic area possible and he sure is hell isn't doing the divide and conquer that Obama is. Obama plays the black vs white, males vs female, rich vs poor stuff all the time. Walker targeted unions to save taxpayers their own money. Obama looks to extort other peoples money. Walker in a landslide when it comes to governing over Obama. As I suspected, progressives have a Koch Fetish.
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cutiguna		#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 922 May 11, 2012 2:50 PM	Did I ever tell you about the time Scott Walker went hunting? Well anyway, Walker decides he's gonna hunt down all four members of the Banana Splits. He stalks and kills every one of them with a machete. They all beg for their lives, except Fleagul.
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CVBucky		#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 784 May 11, 2012 3:29 PM	Blab of Bacon wrote: CVBucky wrote: If Wisconsin wants a higher unemployment rate, unhealthy schools, less teachers, bigger class sizes, higher property taxes and HUGE deficits then I guess Walker does not give a rats ass about those concerns. In that case, we probably should have a democrat governor. Lets go through your list, shall we? Under Walker: Unhealthy Schools? check Less Teachers? check Bigger Class Sizes? check Higher Property Taxes? Check I'll give you the deficits, but I assume you make some correlation between the lowering unemployment rate and President Obama's policies? So Flunky gets 1 1/2 out of 6 on your scale. No wonder he got kicked out of Maquette! Fiction! Which part? My property taxes went up. There are larger class sizes in my district due to fewer teachers. In your world I suppose that makes for healthier schools?
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Blab of Bacon		#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3646 May 11, 2012 3:39 PM Beware the milkman!	CVBucky wrote: Blab of Bacon wrote: CVBucky wrote: If Wisconsin wants a higher unemployment rate, unhealthy schools, less teachers, bigger class sizes, higher property taxes and HUGE deficits then I guess Walker does not give a rats ass about those concerns. In that case, we probably should have a democrat governor. Lets go through your list, shall we? Under Walker: Unhealthy Schools? check Less Teachers? check Bigger Class Sizes? check Higher Property Taxes? Check I'll give you the deficits, but I assume you make some correlation between the lowering unemployment rate and President Obama's policies? So Flunky gets 1 1/2 out of 6 on your scale. No wonder he got kicked out of Maquette! Fiction! Which part? My property taxes went up. There are larger class sizes in my district due to fewer teachers. In your world I suppose that makes for healthier schools? You must live in a district that thumbed its nose at Act 10. Things will be better next contract, since your school board cares more abouts unions than about taxpayers.
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Billy Hancock	Act 10	#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1309 May 11, 2012 4:06 PM	Remove this ad If I recall 73% of districts have reported reductions in staff, programs or increases in class size and most have not "opted out" of Act 10. It will get worse this year...the cuts coming up next school year will be much much much more difficult than any sacrifices required the past school year.
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Blab of Bacon		#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3646 May 11, 2012 4:08 PM Beware the milkman!	Billy Hancock wrote: If I recall 73% of districts have reported reductions in staff, programs or increases in class size and most have not "opted out" of Act 10. It will get worse this year...the cuts coming up next school year will be much much much more difficult than any sacrifices required the past school year. We are so doomed that the teachers union can't even disclose the survey results on teacher layoffs and class sizes for the first time in a decade! Too doomed to release the doom numbers!
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LumpyWideAss		#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6487 May 11, 2012 4:14 PM The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking.	Billy Hancock wrote: It will get worse this year...the cuts coming up next school year will be much much much more difficult than any sacrifices required the past school year. I think I mentioned the wife's district saved so much money moving from WEA Trust to United Health that they now offer vision insurance, which we never had before. Let the difficulties continue! As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way.
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Rudd Gregory		#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3370 May 11, 2012 4:16 PM	Billy Hancock wrote: If I recall 73% of districts have reported reductions in staff, programs or increases in class size and most have not "opted out" of Act 10. It will get worse this year...the cuts coming up next school year will be much much much more difficult than any sacrifices required the past school year. Billy, C'mon man. It's time to stand with Governor Walker! He ain't a big fancy talker!
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Billy Hancock		#34	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1309 May 11, 2012 4:18 PM	Rudd Gregory wrote: Billy Hancock wrote: If I recall 73% of districts have reported reductions in staff, programs or increases in class size and most have not "opted out" of Act 10. It will get worse this year...the cuts coming up next school year will be much much much more difficult than any sacrifices required the past school year. Billy, C'mon man. It's time to stand with Governor Walker! He ain't a big fancy talker! thanks I've changed my mind about Governor Wanker.
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CVBucky		#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 784 May 11, 2012 4:26 PM	So next contract my property taxes will go down? Care to place a small wager on that?
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Rudd Gregory		#36	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3370 May 11, 2012 4:33 PM	"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord." Billy, I hope one day, you experience your own blinding light on the way to Damascus. When you do, you'll discover that the above quote from Isaiah will give you renewed strength whenever you read and hear the vitriolic hatred that latter-day Amalekites and Philistines direct at our righteous governor, who is the alpha and the omega of our great Badger State.
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Billy Hancock		#37	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1309 May 11, 2012 4:54 PM	may the lord be with you
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UncleEd2007		#38	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7557 May 12, 2012 7:17 AM	Billy Hancock wrote: Blab of Bacon wrote: Brandt wrote: Walker is out to kill unions as a political opponent, he cares little about the people of Wisconsin or the economic ramifications. He is a terrible person. Actually, he is doing it for the people of Wisconsin and for the economic ramifications. Apparently only a terrible person turns a $3 billion deficit into over a million dollar surplus. Guess what? Not wanting to grease the unions does not make somebody terrible. the surplus is hokum...smoke and mirrors or frankly a lie, and by the way teachers, cops, firefighters, and other public employees are among "the people of Wisconsin" and he ain't doin' shit for them. Walker is a right wing ideologue doing the bidding of his patrons for a national right wing agenda, he doesn't give a rat's ass about Wisconsin. What were Governor Doyle's 'surpluses', then? And he didn't do shit on anything. Ben Brust - Refuse to lose!!
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CVBucky		#39	[url]	[-]
Posts: 784 May 12, 2012 10:26 AM	What were Governor Doyle's 'surpluses', then? And he didn't do shit on anything. Two piles of shit - make one giant dump.
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scoobs69		#40	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5998 May 12, 2012 10:49 AM	Remove this ad CVBucky wrote: Blab of Bacon wrote: CVBucky wrote: If Wisconsin wants a higher unemployment rate, unhealthy schools, less teachers, bigger class sizes, higher property taxes and HUGE deficits then I guess Walker does not give a rats ass about those concerns. In that case, we probably should have a democrat governor. Lets go through your list, shall we? Under Walker: Unhealthy Schools? check Less Teachers? check Bigger Class Sizes? check Higher Property Taxes? Check I'll give you the deficits, but I assume you make some correlation between the lowering unemployment rate and President Obama's policies? So Flunky gets 1 1/2 out of 6 on your scale. No wonder he got kicked out of Maquette!/buckyville.yuku.com/domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/laugh.gif" alt="" />" width="15" height="15"> Fiction! Which part? My property taxes went up. There are larger class sizes in my district due to fewer teachers. In your world I suppose that makes for healthier schools? Curiously, this is the first year in the last 8 our property taxes didn't go up. don't jab, poke, pierce, stab, or joust with your sausage. you'll lose juice, and ultimately flavor. scoobs - 11/11/02
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