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May 29, 2012 8:40 PM
Slimm21 wrote:You aren't even quick enough to understand my argumentJust to be clear, you are talking about the argument that you are on one side of, and almost every other person is on the other side?There is an extremely low number of people that have not played meaningful minutes in the NBA that should have because every coach/GM/exec "missed" them. You've already formulated this argument for Taylor, so that if he doesn't play more than a 10 day contract in the NBA, that the system is flawed and they have "missed." Meanwhile, all these other players that you deem to be inferior to him will continue to collect paychecks.
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May 30, 2012 2:11 AM
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May 30, 2012 7:58 AM
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May 30, 2012 8:31 AM
May 31, 2012 11:39 PM
ThisCharmingFan wrote:Wow. Thought the Dylan/springsteen argument was dumb, but Bo, you've managed to top it. Congrats. What gem: "People who get paid to evaluate players' NBA potential suck at evaluating and drafting." God. Pure gold.
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June 1, 2012 9:12 AM
June 1, 2012 9:36 AM
Slimm21 wrote:That is why Slimm calling someone clueless because they make a legitimate argument is dumbWell, when you make a legitimate argument, get back to me. The 75th best prospect in the 2012 NBA draft is not better than two guys currently logging serious minutes in the NBA (Blake/Fisher).
June 1, 2012 9:45 AM
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June 1, 2012 10:21 AM
Slimm21 wrote:Well, 10-15 years from now, after Taylor has logged considerable time in the NBA, I will come back here and eat crow.
June 1, 2012 10:43 AM
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June 1, 2012 10:44 AM
danterp wrote:from yahoo sports Wisconsin F/G Ryan EvansParticulars: 6-6/210, Sr.2011-12 stats: 11.0 ppg, 6.8 rpg Buzz: Evans, who will be a graduate student starting in the fall, is a grinder who does a lot of the little things. He made huge strides from his sophomore season, increasing his scoring average by 8.2 points as a junior. With the graduation of leading scorer Jordan Taylor, look for Evans to become the Badgers' go-to guy next season. Evans has a nice mid-range game and is a fierce competitor on the boards.
June 1, 2012 11:25 AM
June 1, 2012 11:52 AM
Slimm21 wrote:Fisher is not a very good NBA basketball player and it is a completely legitimate argument that Taylor, from a pure basketball ability standpoint, is better than Fisher. Taylor may never play in the NBA, or get the chance to play in the NBA. That doesn't mean that right now he isn't a better basketball player than Fisher Does anyone else follow this? If you want to make an actual argument about how 37 year old Fisher is a better basketball player then please make it. Better ball handler. Better shooter. Higher Bball IQ. Experience that can't be measured. Please Bobadger, name me all the NBA players that Taylor played against last season. You think Fisher looks bad, but he is looking bad against NBA players. Quite the leap from bumblefuck State and the Jordan Hulls' of the world.
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June 1, 2012 4:29 PM
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June 1, 2012 5:21 PM
Bobadger wrote:Taylor also has about the same level of athleticism as guys like ... Ty Lawson?
Taylor also has about the same level of athleticism as guys like ... Ty Lawson?
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June 1, 2012 5:47 PM
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June 1, 2012 6:23 PM
Bobadger wrote:ThisCharmingFan wrote:Wow. Thought the Dylan/springsteen argument was dumb, but Bo, you've managed to top it. Congrats. What gem: "People who get paid to evaluate players' NBA potential suck at evaluating and drafting." God. Pure gold.Exhibit A: The Milwaukee Bucks Aside from can't miss players, the drafting in the NBA is horrible. I'm not saying anyone else could do the job better, but that is the way it is. That is my point, it is really hard to evaluate NBA talent. That is why Slimm calling someone clueless because they make a legitimate argument is dumb.
June 2, 2012 3:09 AM
ThisCharmingFan wrote:Bobadger wrote:ThisCharmingFan wrote:Wow. Thought the Dylan/springsteen argument was dumb, but Bo, you've managed to top it. Congrats. What gem: "People who get paid to evaluate players' NBA potential suck at evaluating and drafting." God. Pure gold.Exhibit A: The Milwaukee Bucks Aside from can't miss players, the drafting in the NBA is horrible. I'm not saying anyone else could do the job better, but that is the way it is. That is my point, it is really hard to evaluate NBA talent. That is why Slimm calling someone clueless because they make a legitimate argument is dumb. No it isn't. They have to fill out the roster. Missing on players per club is just dumb. You indicted the entire NBA. The NBA finds talent from all over the world.Why don't you list all the great players that the NBA missed on? The ones, you know, toiling away undiscovered.
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June 2, 2012 1:26 PM
June 2, 2012 2:25 PM
WestCoastBadger wrote:[Many excellent points and observations].............. Last thing. Bobadger, you bring up some good points, especially on the risk/reward decision-making of teams bringing in veterans instead of young players to develop. I recommend you learn how to make such points without being a complete dick. That's the reason people don't like you here.
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