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TheMonsignor		#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7083 January 28, 2012 9:23 AM Phil King "200 lbs, dripping wet"	Remove this ad I don't know what makes the most sense financially, but for exposure, I'd take the Joe for annual tourney. That is a trip I'd think of making. Holding it in Detroit will get mor media coverage than any of the other venues. Bless the Badgers.
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Eric the Red		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8836 January 28, 2012 9:30 AM	I agree with Roy 100%. The continual watering down of the league is one of the things that turned me away from it. When the schedule comes out and I look for the home games I want to see, 10-12 of them are automatically eliminated. To the casual fan (or even pretty dedicated fan like myself) seeing Michigan State just seems like more of an event than seeing Duluth.... even if Duluth can skate circles around the Spartans. When you play such inferior programs (name wise), there are only two results: - Win... like you're expected to or - Lose... and be super pissed that you lost to these chumps There's few chances over the course of a season to get pumped up and say "That was a GREAT win". Follow me on Twitter.
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DoorCountyBadgers		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3425 January 28, 2012 10:34 AM HOCKEYMANIAC	just think that when go to big then hockey league how watered down that hockey league is going to be.....only 4 good teams...1 up and coming and one you won't hear from the next 10-15 years..... when the new BT schedules comes out there will only be 4 games that I will have any interest in going to...the 3 teams I don't give a dam about and never will..... so now we our BT tourney qualifiers which will be the same 3 teams every year with mus/osu playing for the final spot...what a tourney that will be huh jet off to detroit every year to watch you play the same 3 teams you have been playing for the past 2 months...now that sounbs like fun The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing... ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY â��Support Hockey. Any Location, Any Time, Any Level, Any Gender. For some it's a game, for others a sport - for me, it's something moreâ�? "Be original, be different, be passionate, be selfless and be free. Be a hockey fan." â��Wisconsin Badger Hockey: NCAA Champions 1973, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1990, 2006â�?
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chuck schwartz 9		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 684 January 28, 2012 11:28 AM	DoorCountyBadgers wrote: just think that when go to big then hockey league how watered down that hockey league is going to be.....only 4 good teams...1 up and coming and one you won't hear from the next 10-15 years..... when the new BT schedules comes out there will only be 4 games that I will have any interest in going to...the 3 teams I don't give a dam about and never will..... so now we our BT tourney qualifiers which will be the same 3 teams every year with mus/osu playing for the final spot...what a tourney that will be huh jet off to detroit every year to watch you play the same 3 teams you have been playing for the past 2 months...now that sounbs like fun The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing... Have you seen some of the recruits Penn State is pulling in? I wouldn't be so sure they are going to be the doormat you expect to be, especially for the time period you have suggested. Additionally, as for current big ten teams? Wisconsin is having the worst season this year. Osiecki has had Ohio State in the top five all season long. Dudes a phenomenal coach, with the resources in Columbus, that program has unlimited potential. @AndyJohnsonB5Q Wisconsin Men's Hockey coverage at Bucky's 5th Quarter
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DoorCountyBadgers		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3425 January 28, 2012 11:31 AM HOCKEYMANIAC	chuck schwartz 9 wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: just think that when go to big then hockey league how watered down that hockey league is going to be.....only 4 good teams...cand one you won't hear from the next 10-15 years..... when the new BT schedules comes out there will only be 4 games that I will have any interest in going to...the 3 teams I don't give a dam about and never will..... so now we our BT tourney qualifiers which will be the same 3 teams every year with mus/osu playing for the final spot...what a tourney that will be huh jet off to detroit every year to watch you play the same 3 teams you have been playing for the past 2 months...now that sounbs like fun The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing... Have you seen some of the recruits Penn State is pulling in? I wouldn't be so sure they are going to be the doormat you expect to be, especially for the time period you have suggested. Additionally, as for current big ten teams? Wisconsin is having the worst season this year. Osiecki has had Ohio State in the top five all season long. Dudes a phenomenal coach, with the resources in Columbus, that program has unlimited potential. 1 up and coming , thats what I said I know all about Osiecki watching coach the Gamblers from years ago through Wisconsin and onto OSU and oh yea those PSU recruits,,,shiver ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY â��Support Hockey. Any Location, Any Time, Any Level, Any Gender. For some it's a game, for others a sport - for me, it's something moreâ�? "Be original, be different, be passionate, be selfless and be free. Be a hockey fan." â��Wisconsin Badger Hockey: NCAA Champions 1973, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1990, 2006â�?
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Eric the Red		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8836 January 28, 2012 9:17 PM	DoorCountyBadgers wrote: The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing. Did you check who's going to be in the WCHA? If it's so great... why, exactly, did every team worth a squirt of piss jump ship from it? Follow me on Twitter.
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DoorCountyBadgers		#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3425 January 28, 2012 9:30 PM HOCKEYMANIAC	Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing. Did you check who's going to be in the WCHA? If it's so great... why, exactly, did every team worth a squirt of piss jump ship from it? because the big ten conference forced them to ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY â��Support Hockey. Any Location, Any Time, Any Level, Any Gender. For some it's a game, for others a sport - for me, it's something moreâ�? "Be original, be different, be passionate, be selfless and be free. Be a hockey fan." â��Wisconsin Badger Hockey: NCAA Champions 1973, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1990, 2006â�?
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Why 2 Badger		#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3295 January 28, 2012 10:16 PM You mess with the bull, you get the horns	DoorCountyBadgers wrote: Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing. Did you check who's going to be in the WCHA? If it's so great... why, exactly, did every team worth a squirt of piss jump ship from it? because the big ten conference forced them to If 2 teams leaving force the rest of the conference to fall part, perhaps your theory of the WCHA being the greatest conference in college hockey is a bit "whacked". Democracy cannot survive under the GOP, the future is at stake here. -Yanked 4/05/2011
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Myles Long		#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 15718 January 28, 2012 11:27 PM	Why 2 Badger wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: The WCHA is the greatest hockey league in college hockey and they will continue to be so until the BT gets at least 10-12 teams playing. Did you check who's going to be in the WCHA? If it's so great... why, exactly, did every team worth a squirt of piss jump ship from it? because the big ten conference forced them to If 2 teams leaving force the rest of the conference to fall part, perhaps your theory of the WCHA being the greatest conference in college hockey is a bit "whacked". --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.' President Muffley --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Badger Sports Photos Older Tailgate/Bowl Trip Photos
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Ol Badger		#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 23762 January 29, 2012 1:21 AM On hiatus	Remove this ad To be honest, this makes no sense at all to me: "After the four lowest seeds play a best-of-three series, the winners advance to the home of the top seed, where the semifinals and title game would be held." Why do you need a best-of-three series among the four bottom teams to get to a single-elimination against the top two seeds? It's like having a best-of-seven first round in the MLB playoffs, then switching to single-elimination for the remaining teams. What is the rationale for doing it this way, other than not wanting to have only one game for a full weekend? There are only six teams, which should make it easy to get them all to one location for a one-weekend, single-elimination playoff. I mean, they already do that with five teams in the WCHA, right? How hard could this be to figure out? These ARE the good old days!
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BuckSixty		#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8727 January 29, 2012 1:37 AM Ambassador	Ol Badger wrote: To be honest, this makes no sense at all to me: "After the four lowest seeds play a best-of-three series, the winners advance to the home of the top seed, where the semifinals and title game would be held." Why do you need a best-of-three series among the four bottom teams to get to a single-elimination against the top two seeds? It's like having a best-of-seven first round in the MLB playoffs, then switching to single-elimination for the remaining teams. What is the rationale for doing it this way, other than not wanting to have only one game for a full weekend? There are only six teams, which should make it easy to get them all to one location for a one-weekend, single-elimination playoff. I mean, they already do that with five teams in the WCHA, right? How hard could this be to figure out? Or it's like having a best-of-three first round in the WCHA playoffs, then switching to single-elimination for the remaining teams. Also, the WCHA's "Final Five" weekend went to a six-team format last year.
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DoorCountyBadgers		#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3425 January 29, 2012 8:39 AM HOCKEYMANIAC	Ol Badger wrote: To be honest, this makes no sense at all to me: "After the four lowest seeds play a best-of-three series, the winners advance to the home of the top seed, where the semifinals and title game would be held." Why do you need a best-of-three series among the four bottom teams to get to a single-elimination against the top two seeds? It's like having a best-of-seven first round in the MLB playoffs, then switching to single-elimination for the remaining teams. What is the rationale for doing it this way, other than not wanting to have only one game for a full weekend? There are only six teams, which should make it easy to get them all to one location for a one-weekend, single-elimination playoff. I mean, they already do that with five teams in the WCHA, right? How hard could this be to figure out? becaue it is the big ten they absolutley no knowledge of what they are doing.....they can take some thing not broke(collegehockey) try to fix it..and then totally screw it up in the process ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY â��Support Hockey. Any Location, Any Time, Any Level, Any Gender. For some it's a game, for others a sport - for me, it's something moreâ�? "Be original, be different, be passionate, be selfless and be free. Be a hockey fan." â��Wisconsin Badger Hockey: NCAA Champions 1973, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1990, 2006â�?
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Eric the Red		#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8836 January 29, 2012 9:39 AM	DoorCountyBadgers wrote: becaue it is the big ten they absolutley no knowledge of what they are doing.....they can take some thing not broke(collegehockey) try to fix it..and then totally screw it up in the process Now I understand... you think college hockey wasn't broke. Follow me on Twitter.
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DoorCountyBadgers		#34	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3425 January 29, 2012 10:07 AM HOCKEYMANIAC	Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: becaue it is the big ten they absolutley no knowledge of what they are doing.....they can take some thing not broke(collegehockey) try to fix it..and then totally screw it up in the process Now I understand... you think college hockey wasn't broke. you're the only one who thinks theres a problem with college hockey....don't fix what isn't broke ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY â��Support Hockey. Any Location, Any Time, Any Level, Any Gender. For some it's a game, for others a sport - for me, it's something moreâ�? "Be original, be different, be passionate, be selfless and be free. Be a hockey fan." â��Wisconsin Badger Hockey: NCAA Champions 1973, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1990, 2006â�?
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AKA TAW		#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13251 January 29, 2012 10:22 AM Den Mother	DoorCountyBadgers wrote: Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: becaue it is the big ten they absolutley no knowledge of what they are doing.....they can take some thing not broke(collegehockey) try to fix it..and then totally screw it up in the process Now I understand... you think college hockey wasn't broke. you're the only one who thinks theres a problem with college hockey....don't fix what isn't broke I've got to go along with Eric here. The WCHA has become diluted with weak teams of little interest to me (both watching and to travel to). If we could drop some of the directional Minnesota teams, pick up the B1G teams, and keep UND, Denver, and CC - then you would have my ideal conference, but that's not going to happen. The B1G Conference is a good start and, hopefully, we can add some quality teams to fill out the schedule. Bitches get things done - Tina Fey, SNL (2008)
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blockski		#36	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9542 January 29, 2012 12:04 PM	Ol Badger wrote: To be honest, this makes no sense at all to me: "After the four lowest seeds play a best-of-three series, the winners advance to the home of the top seed, where the semifinals and title game would be held." Why do you need a best-of-three series among the four bottom teams to get to a single-elimination against the top two seeds? It's like having a best-of-seven first round in the MLB playoffs, then switching to single-elimination for the remaining teams. What is the rationale for doing it this way, other than not wanting to have only one game for a full weekend? There are only six teams, which should make it easy to get them all to one location for a one-weekend, single-elimination playoff. I mean, they already do that with five teams in the WCHA, right? How hard could this be to figure out? Two reasons: First is tradition. That format is the one that all of the other college hockey conferences use. They're all too large to host a single site, one weekend tournament, so they use the best 2-of-3 format on a the first weekend. Second is money. None of these games count against the NCAA game limit. The two weekend format with a series instead of a one-off game means more butts in seats (particularly with campus sites) and therefore more money. I do think the Big Ten should go with a single site, six team tournament. If they get more teams to join, then they'll have to reconsider, but until then this is probably the best option.
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ricecloud9		#37	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4582 January 29, 2012 12:50 PM	AKA TAW wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: becaue it is the big ten they absolutley no knowledge of what they are doing.....they can take some thing not broke(collegehockey) try to fix it..and then totally screw it up in the process Now I understand... you think college hockey wasn't broke. you're the only one who thinks theres a problem with college hockey....don't fix what isn't broke I've got to go along with Eric here. The WCHA has become diluted with weak teams of little interest to me (both watching and to travel to). If we could drop some of the directional Minnesota teams, pick up the B1G teams, and keep UND, Denver, and CC - then you would have my ideal conference, but that's not going to happen. The B1G Conference is a good start and, hopefully, we can add some quality teams to fill out the schedule. Consider me person number three... ricecloud9
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Myles Long		#38	[url]	[-]
Posts: 15718 January 29, 2012 1:49 PM	ricecloud9 wrote: AKA TAW wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: Eric the Red wrote: DoorCountyBadgers wrote: becaue it is the big ten they absolutley no knowledge of what they are doing.....they can take some thing not broke(collegehockey) try to fix it..and then totally screw it up in the process Now I understand... you think college hockey wasn't broke. you're the only one who thinks theres a problem with college hockey....don't fix what isn't broke I've got to go along with Eric here. The WCHA has become diluted with weak teams of little interest to me (both watching and to travel to). If we could drop some of the directional Minnesota teams, pick up the B1G teams, and keep UND, Denver, and CC - then you would have my ideal conference, but that's not going to happen. The B1G Conference is a good start and, hopefully, we can add some quality teams to fill out the schedule. Consider me person number three... Four, but then again we have to consider the source on this tangent. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.' President Muffley --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Badger Sports Photos Older Tailgate/Bowl Trip Photos
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Eric the Red		#39	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8836 January 29, 2012 3:37 PM	While TAW is more than a casual fan, but she sounds like pretty much every casual fan I know. You average Madison guy who hits up 2-3 games per year, LOVES the idea of a Big Ten Conference because the teams are all the big schools that you know. People are sick of a bloated conference where you don't play all the best teams at home and it seems like you get the Alaskas of the league 8 times per year. You can still schedule North Dakota, Denver or whoever... with the added bonus of only seeing Bemidji, Mankanto, Tech and Alaska as needed, instead of every single year. Follow me on Twitter.
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DoorCountyBadgers		#40	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3425 January 29, 2012 5:09 PM HOCKEYMANIAC	Remove this ad Eric the Red wrote: While TAW is more than a casual fan, but she sounds like pretty much every casual fan I know. You average Madison guy who hits up 2-3 games per year, LOVES the idea of a Big Ten Conference because the teams are all the big schools that you know. People are sick of a bloated conference where you don't play all the best teams at home and it seems like you get the Alaskas of the league 8 times per year. You can still schedule North Dakota, Denver or whoever... with the added bonus of only seeing Bemidji, Mankanto, Tech and Alaska as needed, instead of every single year. most people that post here are more then casual fans ITS A GREAT DAY FOR HOCKEY â��Support Hockey. Any Location, Any Time, Any Level, Any Gender. For some it's a game, for others a sport - for me, it's something moreâ�? "Be original, be different, be passionate, be selfless and be free. Be a hockey fan." â��Wisconsin Badger Hockey: NCAA Champions 1973, 1977, 1981, 1983, 1990, 2006â�?
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