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Posts: 7370 February 27, 2012 5:23 PM *Moral fibre? Why, you little pasty-face...I invented* moral fibre!**	Remove this ad With UW's victory over Ohio State yesterday, Bo Ryan recaptured the lead for the best winning percentage in Big Ten history (regular season conference games). Bo's record is now 130-54, or .707. Thad Matta is now 96-40, or .706. Bob Knight is next at .700 over his incredible career. Tom Crean is further down the list. Also, if Wisconsin wins its last two league games, Bo will tie Bud Foster (the other Bud Foster) for all time wins at Wisconsin, with 265. - "What the heck; it's just life. It unfolds right in front of you." -- Bo Ryan
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breadtree		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1795 February 27, 2012 5:30 PM	Has to be an above 50/50 chance of UW winning its last two games, OSU dropping one, and Bo putting giving himself a little breathing room. Then Sullinger and Thomas go pro next year, Dekker, Marshall, and Uthoff come in and make an instant impact, and Bo never looks back. Sound like a plan?
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BB Fran		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7370 February 27, 2012 5:31 PM *Moral fibre? Why, you little pasty-face...I invented* moral fibre!**	Sold. - "What the heck; it's just life. It unfolds right in front of you." -- Bo Ryan
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Posts: 283 February 27, 2012 6:03 PM	It's amazing to me that a coach at a school that couldn't even sniff .500 in Big Ten play until I was about 20 years old could hold the all-time lead in Big Ten winning percentage.
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BB Fran		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7370 February 27, 2012 6:19 PM *Moral fibre? Why, you little pasty-face...I invented* moral fibre!**	That is actually the most amazing thing about that stat. At Indiana or Ohio State it would makes sense. Even at Michigan, MSU or Illinois. At Wisconsin? Incredible. - "What the heck; it's just life. It unfolds right in front of you." -- Bo Ryan
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Posts: 1824 February 27, 2012 7:28 PM	Even more amazing over 11 years. I could see it over a short time - come in and catch lightning in a bottle like Webber. To do it over a long time frame like Bo and Bobby is incredible. "How many times does he (coach Bo Ryan) have to prove it. Year after year they lose guys and people say they won't be any good, and year after year they're at the top of the Big Ten. It's like Groundhog Day. Anybody who says Wisconsin won't be any good shouldn't cover the sport." -- Purdue coach Matt Painter
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Posts: 6273 February 27, 2012 10:08 PM The Geek From 16 Candles Whose Name I Don't Remember	Yes, but he's no Shaka Smart.
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Posts: 1625 February 27, 2012 10:47 PM Chime's wing man	Bud Foster wrote: Yes, but he's no Shaka Smart. Or Tom Crean, Bruce weber, or tubby smith __________________"I use to think Drinking was bad for me, so I gave up thinking"
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Ol Badger		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 23762 February 27, 2012 10:55 PM On hiatus	BB Fran wrote: That is actually the most amazing thing about that stat. At Indiana or Ohio State it would makes sense. Even at Michigan, MSU or Illinois. At Wisconsin? Incredible. Exactly, Fran! When I was at UW we had a few big wins (upsetting #4 Kansas one year, and ending a season by beating Rick Mount's Big Ten Champion Purdue squad), but those were the exceptions. It's just amazing how consistently good the Badger basketball program has been under Bo. That basketball and football both are doing so well is astonishing. These ARE the good old days!
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Posts: 7696 February 28, 2012 12:20 AM C.O.F. elderly gangbanger	Ol Badger wrote: BB Fran wrote: That is actually the most amazing thing about that stat. At Indiana or Ohio State it would makes sense. Even at Michigan, MSU or Illinois. At Wisconsin? Incredible. Exactly, Fran! When I was at UW we had a few big wins (upsetting #4 Kansas one year, and ending a season by beating Rick Mount's Big Ten Champion Purdue squad), but those were the exceptions. It's just amazing how consistently good the Badger basketball program has been under Bo. That basketball and football both are doing so well is astonishing. Age is a terrible thing, OB. One of our memories is clouding. The Mount-led Purdue team was B10 champ in the '68-69 season. I saw the game in Madison. Mount didn't play real well, but the Boilers won the game, and I'm pretty sure they won in WL as well. I think the Boilers only conference loss that year might have been to Indiana or Ohio State. I do remember the game at the Field House the year before, and the Badgers torched Purdue, but I don't think they were champs that year.
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Brewtacular		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 227 February 28, 2012 7:08 AM	Remove this ad sigh, not bad for a guy that can't recruit.
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Combad57		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6737 February 28, 2012 10:51 AM	Ol Badger wrote: BB Fran wrote: That is actually the most amazing thing about that stat. At Indiana or Ohio State it would makes sense. Even at Michigan, MSU or Illinois. At Wisconsin? Incredible. Exactly, Fran! When I was at UW we had a few big wins (upsetting #4 Kansas one year, and ending a season by beating Rick Mount's Big Ten Champion Purdue squad), but those were the exceptions. It's just amazing how consistently good the Badger basketball program has been under Bo. That basketball and football both are doing so well is astonishing. When I was in school we filled the old barn only because it was really fun. We came mostly to watch the other team's stars and stomp our feet and raise a dust cloud. We did have some colorful players like floor burn Ray Gross, gunning Bob Litzow and foul a minute Dale Hackbart. But mostly we came to see Jumpin Johnny Green, Terry Dischinger, John Havlicek, Frank Howard and Jerry Lucas. Then suddenly there was OSU visiting as defending NCAA champs with 4 returning starters and a 20 game winning street. A 19 point win by the Badgers and it was all worth it.
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RacineRed		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 116 February 28, 2012 11:25 AM	In one of their segments a couple of days ago, Homer and Thunder (ESPN 540) projected that Crean will have a better record than Bo going forward. Their principal rationale is "recruiting". A listener suggested that ten years of history challenged their perspective but Thunder (a UW grad) flipped that off as "history". Actually, history - which provides the best insight toward coaching expertise - suggests the future will reflect the past, and improve on it with better recruits. What Crean has going for him is that he coaches the flagship school in the most densely talented BB state and I suspect Indiana will continue improve.
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CCBadger		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5121 February 28, 2012 11:41 AM	RacineRed wrote: What Crean has going for him is that he coaches the flagship school in the most densely talented BB state and I suspect Indiana will continue improve. In spite of his ability to coach the game of basketball. Color me less than impressed with Crean's history. Few have ridden the coattails of one Final Four and a future NBA Hall of Famer more than that jackass. (yea, I'm a bit biased) Having a better record at Indiana than Wisconsin isn't really much of an accomplishment. I find it a remarkable testament to what Wisconsin has done that it's even a conversation that is being had. "There's something beautiful, so pure about Wisconsin beating the snot out of teams by running the ball down their throats"- Matt Hayes, The Sporting News
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mewfert		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 294 February 28, 2012 12:53 PM	All I can say is: Thank God Bo Ryan doesn't coach for Indiana.
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Posts: 6442 February 28, 2012 1:06 PM Ed Nuttycombe	OB may be thinking about the game where we beat pending natl. champs MSU instead? Every time he opens his mouth he lowers the sum total of human intelligence.
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BB Fran		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7370 February 28, 2012 1:09 PM *Moral fibre? Why, you little pasty-face...I invented* moral fibre!**	That game was in 1978, long after OB's tenure in Madison. So "Homer" thinks Clappy will have a better record going forward? Now there's an unbiased source. - "What the heck; it's just life. It unfolds right in front of you." -- Bo Ryan
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Posts: 7696 February 28, 2012 2:43 PM C.O.F. elderly gangbanger	Combad57 wrote: Ol Badger wrote: BB Fran wrote: That is actually the most amazing thing about that stat. At Indiana or Ohio State it would makes sense. Even at Michigan, MSU or Illinois. At Wisconsin? Incredible. Exactly, Fran! When I was at UW we had a few big wins (upsetting #4 Kansas one year, and ending a season by beating Rick Mount's Big Ten Champion Purdue squad), but those were the exceptions. It's just amazing how consistently good the Badger basketball program has been under Bo. That basketball and football both are doing so well is astonishing. When I was in school we filled the old barn only because it was really fun. We came mostly to watch the other team's stars and stomp our feet and raise a dust cloud. We did have some colorful players like floor burn Ray Gross, gunning Bob Litzow and foul a minute Dale Hackbart. But mostly we came to see Jumpin Johnny Green, Terry Dischinger, John Havlicek, Frank Howard and Jerry Lucas. Then suddenly there was OSU visiting as defending NCAA champs with 4 returning starters and a 20 game winning street. A 19 point win by the Badgers and it was all worth it. Memories. Sitting on the lower level of the old place with a packed house for a day game meant you could actually see the dirt and dust falling on you from second and third deck. As you note, a lot of good players to be seen--on the visitor's team. I think Don Nelson hung 40+ on the Badgers when Iowa came in one year. Jimmy Rayl from IU shooting as he came out of the locker room. I didn't see the big game in 1962 when the Badgers dumped the Buckeyes, but I remember Kimberly's Donnie Hearden shot the lights out. Typical of Erickson teams, by the following year he was on the bench. The story was Erickson didn't like married players. Later, I did see Kenny Barnes hit 42 against the Indiana Van Arsdales. Bang. Back to the bench he went. Note-I don't think the Bucks were defending champs in 1962. OSU won in '60, but I think the Bonham-Hogue-Thacker Cincinnati club won in '61 and '62 (beating OSU). Then the Bearcats went for a three-peat in '63 and got dumped in the finals by Loyola, as big an upset as there was in that era.
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RacineRed		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 116 February 28, 2012 2:55 PM	mcguda wrote: Combad57 wrote: Ol Badger wrote: BB Fran wrote: That is actually the most amazing thing about that stat. At Indiana or Ohio State it would makes sense. Even at Michigan, MSU or Illinois. At Wisconsin? Incredible. Exactly, Fran! When I was at UW we had a few big wins (upsetting #4 Kansas one year, and ending a season by beating Rick Mount's Big Ten Champion Purdue squad), but those were the exceptions. It's just amazing how consistently good the Badger basketball program has been under Bo. That basketball and football both are doing so well is astonishing. When I was in school we filled the old barn only because it was really fun. We came mostly to watch the other team's stars and stomp our feet and raise a dust cloud. We did have some colorful players like floor burn Ray Gross, gunning Bob Litzow and foul a minute Dale Hackbart. But mostly we came to see Jumpin Johnny Green, Terry Dischinger, John Havlicek, Frank Howard and Jerry Lucas. Then suddenly there was OSU visiting as defending NCAA champs with 4 returning starters and a 20 game winning street. A 19 point win by the Badgers and it was all worth it. Memories. Sitting on the lower level of the old place with a packed house for a day game meant you could actually see the dirt and dust falling on you from second and third deck. As you note, a lot of good players to be seen--on the visitor's team. I think Don Nelson hung 40+ on the Badgers when Iowa came in one year. Jimmy Rayl from IU shooting as he came out of the locker room. I didn't see the big game in 1962 when the Badgers dumped the Buckeyes, but I remember Kimberly's Donnie Hearden shot the lights out. Typical of Erickson teams, by the following year he was on the bench. The story was Erickson didn't like married players. Later, I did see Kenny Barnes hit 42 against the Indiana Van Arsdales. Bang. Back to the bench he went. Note-I don't think the Bucks were defending champs in 1962. OSU won in '60, but I think the Bonham-Hogue-Thacker Cincinnati club won in '61 and '62 (beating OSU). Then the Bearcats went for a three-peat in '63 and got dumped in the finals by Loyola, as big an upset as there was in that era. Yes, it was the Bonham, Thacker, Hogue, Yates and Wilson team that won. An interesting side-note on the 62 Badgers team that finished 2nd in the BT. Two of our four losses were to Michigan, which finished last in the conference - not totally dissimilar to our performance vis-a-vis Iowa this year
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BB Fran		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7370 February 28, 2012 3:14 PM *Moral fibre? Why, you little pasty-face...I invented* moral fibre!**	mcguda wrote: Note-I don't think the Bucks were defending champs in 1962. OSU won in '60, but I think the Bonham-Hogue-Thacker Cincinnati club won in '61 and '62 (beating OSU). Then the Bearcats went for a three-peat in '63 and got dumped in the finals by Loyola, as big an upset as there was in that era. I was just at Loyola on Saturday for the UWM-LU game. Loyola has just re-made its venue, the Gentile Center. It's terrific for a small University. Only about 4400 seats, down from (allegedly) 5200, but they have transformed what was a large high school gym into a terrific basketball amphitheater. The campus has several other new buildings recently completed or under construction too. Very attractive place, in my opinion, and it's in a neighborhood in Chicago that I have always liked. They announced that next year would be a year long celebration of the 50th Anniversary of that NCAA championship. It's a kick to see their championship trophy, by the way. Its not bad, but you could probably find more imposing trophies for softball and bowling. Times have changed. By the way, Loyola is still the only college or University in the state of Illinois to have won the NCAA Men's Basketball title. Take that, Illini. - "What the heck; it's just life. It unfolds right in front of you." -- Bo Ryan
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GBBball		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1126 February 28, 2012 7:07 PM Donny	Remove this ad Loyola has just re-made its venue, the Gentile Center. It's terrific for a small University. Only about 4400 seats, down from (allegedly) 5200, but they have transformed what was a large high school gym into a terrific basketball amphitheater. So that Horizon league "rule" that you have to have a venue that seats 5,000, really doesn't matter any more?
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