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UncleEd2007

TGP on today's practics... QBs struggled..

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April 14, 2012 6:08 PM

Detailed report by the The great one

Maybe D is going to be that great.

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ramajoti

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April 14, 2012 6:49 PM

Costigan got a complement from BB about his play. The 247 site has BB saying McNamara, as a center, is also doing well since his transition to the OL. Those 2 can add some nice depth to the interior of the line relieving a number of Badgers fans. Hopefully UW can blow out some people in the fall so they can get some game time.

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NumenLumen

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April 14, 2012 8:51 PM

Shout, shout - let it all out. These are the things I can do without.

UncleEd2007 wrote:
Detailed report by the The great one

Maybe D is going to be that great.

I do think the defense is going to be very good this year.

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betroit02

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April 14, 2012 9:11 PM

is anyone surprised that Stave and Brennan struggles? im sure O'Brien was there thinking "yeah, i got this". i hope he is half the teammate wilson was, because if he is, he will still be a damn good teammate.

You look like Babe Ruth's gay brother. Gabe Ruth.

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deanwormer

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April 16, 2012 6:51 PM

NumenLumen wrote:

UncleEd2007 wrote:
Detailed report by the The great one

Maybe D is going to be that great.

I do think the defense is going to be very good this year.

Re: spring training and QB vs. D play, this sounds like deja vu all over again.

I'm just glad we have Danny O' coming on board.

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buckymatt24

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April 16, 2012 8:08 PM

When was the last time a UW quarterback looked good during the Spring?

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yanked

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April 16, 2012 11:17 PM

Don't sweat it, guys are gonna have the jitters knowing they are playing for a spot. New coach, new players and the defense is always miles ahead of the offense in these scenarios.....your own defense knows personnel, formations and can read keys to see what you are doing, makes it hard to succeed. That doesn't mean the QB's didn't struggle, I just wouldn't read too much into it at this point. These guys need playing time and 6 practices under the gun leading up to a scrimmage doesn't tell you alot. You need these kids in a game to see what they are capable of, some guys are gamers.

As I suspected, progressives have a Koch Fetish.

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Roderick.brewersfandemonium

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April 17, 2012 7:59 AM

buckymatt24 wrote:
When was the last time a UW quarterback looked good during the Spring?

I was under the impression that the senior Tolzien was good during the spring. But you have to go back quite a bit before that season.

Historically the defense has the advantage because they play the WRs daily and learn their tendencies and routes. With a new offense it might be considered even for awhile at least.

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RedWagon

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April 17, 2012 8:01 AM

I don't know the answer, I'm just asking that's all.

Macias always looked decent in the spring. Well, better than he did in the fall anyway.

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SectionQrow44

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April 18, 2012 7:45 PM

"I am not missing this game for anything because it may be another 9 months before I can do a beer bong, eat food from a wagon and see college girls dressed like HOs."

buckymatt24 wrote:
When was the last time a UW quarterback looked good during the Spring?

Bollinger when he led the reserves to a fg, the only time i ever saw the reserves score

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Combad57

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April 20, 2012 12:16 PM

Lots of talent. The LB crew is probably the best in the conference especially if Fenton catches on with his reads.

There will be enough O linemen to field 3 teams in the fall. Maybe all 3 frosh will RS.

UW continues as RB University. 2 guys again with 1000' yards? Gordon got high praise.

Kinda had high hopes for Stave after the poise he showed in last year's spring game. Could still happen.

WRs? Need a couple.

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TristansShadow

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April 20, 2012 1:21 PM

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Combad57 wrote:
Lots of talent. The LB crew is probably the best in the conference especially if Fenton catches on with his reads.

There will be enough O linemen to field 3 teams in the fall. Maybe all 3 frosh will RS.

UW continues as RB University. 2 guys again with 1000' yards? Gordon got high praise.

Kinda had high hopes for Stave after the poise he showed in last year's spring game. Could still happen.

WRs? Need a couple.

Agree with a lot of this. I would lessen the enthusiasm some for the LBs. Good, with the potential to be the best. I wish some of the security at LB could be transferred to DBs. Trotter (S) gets a continuous earful from coaches about keeping contain, Caputo (in limited viewing) has a very natural feel for lanes and containment. I really hope the experience starts paying off for Southward and Johnson. Smart kids with lots of talent. The coaches were giving Hugs (in just a couple of practices witnessed) lots of reps considering his class standing. Peniel Jean has no problem with contact, even against some of UW's hard-running tailbacks. Definitely a physical CB.

Complete agreement on the OL. In fact I am surprised, in a small way, that fans have any concern about the OL. I suppose it stems from being spoiled and from some perceived drop off in 2011. I would contend that drop off was more a function of TE blocking than at OL. The OL is scary deep.

Tailback U to be sure, but I am not so sure we have 2 1,000 yarders, in no small part because #3 (Gordon) is so good he might push #2. Melvin has a willingness to drop a shoulder at the end of a run that is very reminiscent of Walter Payton.

I understand the hopes for Stave, but still think them misplaced. Great kid, great representative of UW (like just about all of the FBers you talk to) but, at the very least, it seems to me he is a year away from being able to lead a B10 championship team. He is still incosistent, though better.

Definitely need WRs to step up, and there are a few candidates. But I'd argue it is more important for members of the D-Line to move from average to above average. Several of them.

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DCBadger7

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April 20, 2012 1:55 PM

Blissfully Disinterested

Thanks for the insights, Tristan and Combad. For an out of stater like me, this is sort of stuff that keeps me devoted to this board.

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litesrn

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April 20, 2012 2:36 PM

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Gotta go check the depth chart, but scary deep isn't the first thought I have when it comes to the OL. We didn't recruit way heavy there recently and injuries have hurt. I know there are several nice frosh coming in and a few guys coming back from injury, as well as Dehn coming back, but the numbers are what still have me concerned for the future. For now, my bet is we're easily 8 deep, so that's great.

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Skalmo

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April 20, 2012 2:41 PM

TristansShadow wrote:
Peniel Jean has no problem with contact, even against some of UW's hard-running tailbacks. Definitely a physical CB.

He is the player I am most excited to see in 2012. The secondary didn't have much to get excited about last year but every time Jean was in the game he made a play.

Free Rob Wilson!

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ryebadger

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April 20, 2012 2:55 PM

TristansShadow wrote:
Combad57 wrote:
Lots of talent. The LB crew is probably the best in the conference especially if Fenton catches on with his reads.

There will be enough O linemen to field 3 teams in the fall. Maybe all 3 frosh will RS.

UW continues as RB University. 2 guys again with 1000' yards? Gordon got high praise.

Kinda had high hopes for Stave after the poise he showed in last year's spring game. Could still happen.

WRs? Need a couple.

Agree with a lot of this. I would lessen the enthusiasm some for the LBs. Good, with the potential to be the best. I wish some of the security at LB could be transferred to DBs. Trotter (S) gets a continuous earful from coaches about keeping contain, Caputo (in limited viewing) has a very natural feel for lanes and containment. I really hope the experience starts paying off for Southward and Johnson. Smart kids with lots of talent. The coaches were giving Hugs (in just a couple of practices witnessed) lots of reps considering his class standing. Peniel Jean has no problem with contact, even against some of UW's hard-running tailbacks. Definitely a physical CB.

Complete agreement on the OL. In fact I am surprised, in a small way, that fans have any concern about the OL. I suppose it stems from being spoiled and from some perceived drop off in 2011. I would contend that drop off was more a function of TE blocking than at OL. The OL is scary deep.

Tailback U to be sure, but I am not so sure we have 2 1,000 yarders, in no small part because #3 (Gordon) is so good he might push #2. Melvin has a willingness to drop a shoulder at the end of a run that is very reminiscent of Walter Payton.

I understand the hopes for Stave, but still think them misplaced. Great kid, great representative of UW (like just about all of the FBers you talk to) but, at the very least, it seems to me he is a year away from being able to lead a B10 championship team. He is still incosistent, though better.

Definitely need WRs to step up, and there are a few candidates. But I'd argue it is more important for members of the D-Line to move from average to above average. Several of them.

Great info. I agree about tempering expectations of the LBs. Whether because of poor defensive line play, a scheme that puts too much pressure on them to make too many plays, or the absence of an eraser at safety to cover up for their mistakes, I thought the LBs had an uneven year last year. Still the strongest defensive unit for sure.

"Great kid, great representative of UW (like just about all of the FBers you talk to)."
Strikingly true. It's really amazing that every kid you speak to is polite, friendly, humble, articulate. Obviously you can't judge someone from a 5 minute conversation and there are bound to be issues in any big group of college students but UW football players are really, really good kids. Bielema is seriously committed to character, and it shows. I'd love to see opposing fans who call him a meathead spend a day at practice getting to know the heart and soul of the program he's built. They'd come away with a far different impression.

As always, this post is written with the express proviso that I am not a chicken little. The sky is not falling. My office window does not have a ledge. I'm happy we won. I heard some ranked teams even lost. I'm glad we are not Virginia Tech. I like our coach. I know these are 19 year old kids. The season is young. Mistakes will get cleaned up. Fowler said even Alabama threw an interception once. The other guys are on scholarship, too. After living through the Don morton era, I'm just glad to be here.

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April 20, 2012 3:22 PM

Any thoughts on the DL. Last year it seemed that after our non-conference games many were high on our DL due to the numbers we had. My take on that was we had a bunch of average and not any very good/great.

Thoughts this year. Should we expect an average unit again which puts pressure on the LBs and CBs? Our best teams have had atleast one outstanding DL player which helps to cover up a weakness somewhere else.

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badgerman27

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April 20, 2012 3:33 PM

Strange Brew eh wrote:
Any thoughts on the DL. Last year it seemed that after our non-conference games many were high on our DL due to the numbers we had. My take on that was we had a bunch of average and not any very good/great.

Thoughts this year. Should we expect an average unit again which puts pressure on the LBs and CBs? Our best teams have had atleast one outstanding DL player which helps to cover up a weakness somewhere else.

We're getting Gilbert back, and Kelly looks good at DE. Adeyanju and Hayes are coming off redshirts, and at least one will contribute. Adeyanju and Herring have been given a lot of praise this spring, and Allen is playing well.

I think the DL will be better.

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Shot of Wiskie

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April 20, 2012 5:02 PM

"I now read the Declaration every Fourth of July. It is the most stunning, eloquent, "Fuck You" in the history of the written word."

buckymatt24 wrote:
When was the last time a UW quarterback looked good during the Spring?

Went to the Spring Game 3 years ago, and suffice to say there was no electricity generated by the then #3 quarterback, S. Tolzien.

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Danofiveo

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April 20, 2012 5:39 PM

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DCBadger7 wrote:
Thanks for the insights, Tristan and Combad. For an out of stater like me, this is sort of stuff that keeps me devoted to this board.

Completely agree! I sponge this shit and never get enough, it makes up for much of the senseless banter/conjecture elsewhere. Thanks Tristans, Combad, Ramajoti, et al!!!

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sullybear

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April 21, 2012 10:35 PM

I will always be worried about the DL until Partridge proves he can get the DL to play at a high level. Lots of kids with lots of talent, but where is the pressure?

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